Mar 06, 2008, 08:22 PM // 20:22
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#121
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Apr 2006
Profession: R/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_jos
How could a student ever learn something when there is no teacher around?
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Why does anyone need to be taught?
I played with henchies from the very start, I know im not alone in that as well, yet im quite able to venture into the high end areas.
There is no need for anyone to tell you how to get better, you learn and improve as you go. However once you find a skill like UB you cant improve or get better, because anyway you turn all the other options are weaker.
So the player doesnt need to become anymore skillful and now its reached the stage where, as was said in this thread, people "need" UB to be able to play the game.
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Mar 07, 2008, 02:30 PM // 14:30
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#122
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Underworld Spelunker
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo
Guild: Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]
Profession: E/
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It's quite simple.
I GW, professions are defined by armor and primary attribute.
Armor differences are compensated with skill differences.
If you remove skill differences, then you MUST remove armor differences, because if you cannot change skills, you cannot compensate the lackings of your profession.
Because of that, ALL effects that replace all skills regardless of profession, must ignore also armor. Completely ignoring profession.
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Mar 08, 2008, 03:29 AM // 03:29
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#123
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: USA
Guild: Quit
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
It's quite simple.
I GW, professions are defined by armor and primary attribute.
Armor differences are compensated with skill differences.
If you remove skill differences, then you MUST remove armor differences, because if you cannot change skills, you cannot compensate the lackings of your profession.
Because of that, ALL effects that replace all skills regardless of profession, must ignore also armor. Completely ignoring profession.
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Nerf Ursan blessing. Problem solved
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Mar 08, 2008, 04:47 AM // 04:47
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#124
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jun 2007
Profession: W/
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Ursan Best Skill Ever. It's not like it's being used against you in PvP, just leave the skill alone.
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Mar 08, 2008, 05:08 AM // 05:08
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#125
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Philippines, LSGH
Guild: Legions of the Golden Aguila [PNOY]
Profession: A/D
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I met this guy in Glint's Challenge.
He playd as an Ele, yet his build is Ursan XD.
I told him it's better to stay as a nuker, and he acted as if I was some nimrod who doesn't know how to play GW.
I acted Polite as a I can telling him theres nothing wrong going Ursan while Ele it's just better to go Nuker and he called me a Douche.
I didn't want to start a fight so I acted as some guy who Doesn't know what a Douche is and doesn't realize were fighting.
If I just remeber his name I'll humiliate him XD!
And each Blessing should have for Melee, Range/Spell or Support.
So every Prof can have one, but limit the ability to use it.
To avoid the over abuse of this skill.
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Mar 08, 2008, 05:28 AM // 05:28
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#126
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2006
Guild: Rise From the Ashes [phnx]
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isileth
Why does anyone need to be taught?
I played with henchies from the very start, I know im not alone in that as well, yet im quite able to venture into the high end areas.
There is no need for anyone to tell you how to get better, you learn and improve as you go. However once you find a skill like UB you cant improve or get better, because anyway you turn all the other options are weaker.
So the player doesnt need to become anymore skillful and now its reached the stage where, as was said in this thread, people "need" UB to be able to play the game.
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Fallacy of composition, to the penalty box with you.
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Mar 08, 2008, 05:46 AM // 05:46
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#127
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2007
Guild: Fighters of the Shiverpeaks
Profession: Me/Mo
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doesn't bother me.
I just dl'ed Conan.
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Mar 08, 2008, 07:47 AM // 07:47
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#128
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Forge Runner
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/signed @ removing the damn thing...
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Mar 08, 2008, 11:39 AM // 11:39
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#129
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Emo Goth Italics
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Quote:
Originally Posted by X3R0
Ursan Best Skill Ever. It's not like it's being used against you in PvP, just leave the skill alone.
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I know some PvE'rs who are against the skill too.
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Mar 08, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03
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#130
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jun 2007
Profession: W/
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The reason i see people wanting to get rid of Ursan is because they cant join a PUG well join a "Guild", people only bitch about this skill cause it makes their favorite class look weaker. I use Ursan on my warrior and dont bitch about the energy management(25Energy) or how every other class can now tank, its a game people just have "FUN".
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Mar 08, 2008, 07:56 PM // 19:56
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#131
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2007
Profession: N/
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Is there a guild with name:Kill The Bear[URSA]?
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Mar 08, 2008, 10:39 PM // 22:39
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#132
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Emo Goth Italics
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Quote:
Originally Posted by X3R0
The reason i see people wanting to get rid of Ursan is because they cant join a PUG well join a "Guild", people only bitch about this skill cause it makes their favorite class look weaker. I use Ursan on my warrior and dont bitch about the energy management(25Energy) or how every other class can now tank, its a game people just have "FUN".
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I fail to see how buttonmashing is fun, but whatever rocks your boat....
Every class could already 'Tank' in the first place but 'Tanking' is a tired tactic that is bad anyway.
The energy manaement isn't a problem at all either, and at least 90% PvE guilds have been corrupted by Ursan.
You'll be sorry when you finish PvE 100% and find out you don't understand anything about even the simplist of game mechanics...
@Mushmal -- Most probably...
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Mar 08, 2008, 10:43 PM // 22:43
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#133
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LEET HAXXOR!
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Random Arena
Profession: N/A
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ok so ursan makes guild wars easy whats the problem here again? in the old days 55 was easy for money and we didnt have every1 wanting that nerfed.
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Mar 08, 2008, 10:46 PM // 22:46
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#134
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Emo Goth Italics
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeds
ok so ursan makes guild wars easy whats the problem here again? in the old days 55 was easy for money and we didnt have every1 wanting that nerfed.
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That's farming.
Ursan is used for practically EVERYTHING by alot of PvE'rs.
And wasn't PvE easy enough anyway? Ursan made it even more easy than SY/TNTF.
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Mar 08, 2008, 11:53 PM // 23:53
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#135
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jun 2007
Profession: W/
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Well dont use Ursan. Find people that dont use it tyla and make a guild with the other Ursan hatters and there you go. Also i dont use it that much, since there are better builds out there. Finish PvE 100% ? Theres always something to do like helping other people and stuff.
Last edited by X3R0; Mar 08, 2008 at 11:55 PM // 23:55..
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Mar 08, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57
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#136
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Portland, OR
Guild: The Older Gamers (TOG)
Profession: N/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
That's farming.
Ursan is used for practically EVERYTHING by alot of PvE'rs.
And wasn't PvE easy enough anyway? Ursan made it even more easy than SY/TNTF.
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You'll get over it, How other people play should be NONE of your damned business.!
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Mar 09, 2008, 12:15 AM // 00:15
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#137
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jun 2007
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake_Steel
You'll get over it, How other people play should be NONE of your damned business.!
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Second. Best answer to people wanting to get rid of Ursan.
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Mar 09, 2008, 12:20 AM // 00:20
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#138
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be
Guild: Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake_Steel
You'll get over it, How other people play should be NONE of your damned business.!
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QFT!
I'll play my way or you can urasn way either way, it's none of your freaking business.
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Mar 09, 2008, 12:22 AM // 00:22
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#139
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The Greatest
Join Date: Feb 2006
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake_Steel
You'll get over it, How other people play should be NONE of your damned business.!
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When the way other people play begins to change the economy, then it becomes the communities business.
If ursan didn't effect the game at all, then I'd agree with you. But it does effect the game.
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Mar 09, 2008, 01:12 AM // 01:12
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#140
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: America. How about you, commie?
Guild: Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]
Profession: R/Mo
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I'm for we either unify Ursanners by removing profession-specific attributes (Soul Reaping, etc) and adjust armor, maybe even health/energy.
It's no fair that FoW/UW is dominated by SS/55, which I lack, terratanking, which I lack, and URSAN, which I can never get in to because "lololol ur not a R9 war".
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